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    "comment": "Carlile shares, \"One of my top five favorite albums of all time growing up was The Joshua Tree… I even entered a contest one time as Bono when I was 15 to win a singing competition, singing 'Running to Stand Still.' I wore sunglasses and shit and I fell on my knees at the end of it. I already had the lesbian haircut that he has, so it wasn’t much of a stretch… So Daniel Lanois [who co-produced Joshua Tree, as well as Wrecking Ball] was on my mind a lot.\"\n\nOn the creation of this track, Carlile reveals, \"I was reading a conversation on the First Amendment instead of a guitar solo. I love Andrew Watt so much. Every time we talk on the phone, he’s like, 'I fucking love 'Church & State,' because I love when you read the Declaration of Independence.\n\n\"When the lyrics were coming together for that song, I just couldn’t stop thinking of the wisdom of Thomas Jefferson’s address to the Danbury Baptists. There’s so much wisdom in the Constitution, and even the notations on the Constitution are full of wisdom — the footnotes, if you will. What he said to the Baptist was intended to reassure them that they would be allowed to practice their faith, spirituality, religion, however you wanna refer to it, freely under the Constitution. But he also makes a really important distinction that we aren’t an autocracy. We’re not a theocracy. We can’t rule over people with our interpretation of an extremely opaque scripture and religion as it pertains particularly to the Christian religion.\"\n\n“And in my faith, even Jesus was clear about not ruling a people based on an interpretation of religion. Even Jesus said, 'Give unto Caesar what's Caesar's.' So I can’t get behind rules and laws that I know are secretly based on an interpretation of a religion that I can’t get behind. Even if I agree with the religion.\" https://tinyurl.com/5yjm5mmk",
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